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I am new to the forum and have a question about raising two doodles at the same time. George and Gracie are 5 months old and doing great with crate training. But it's really chaotic getting them accustomed to being out in the house. One will dash behind the sofa and chew a lamp cord while the other is chasing the cat. We have them out in the house as much as possible, but they are generally tethered to a table where we are working or tied to our belt loops. Both my husband and I are home most of the time and we can sort of divide and conquer. But it's almost like they are so smart they know they can literally run rings around us when they're both are out. I'm afraid they're learning some bad habits. I see your sweet photos of doodles on the sofa or napping quietly and I'm jealous...My doodles are NEVER still enough to take a picture at all, unless they're confined in some way. They are angels when we take them on separate outings, love the car, sit quietly when they have to wait, watch happily out the windows, etc. But having them out in the house is crazy. And they spend a lot of time in their crates. Is this normal puppy behavior?
 

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Yes...I am afraid it is normal and I do think you are right. I have said many times that these dogs are so smart that they quickly learn when there are no rules...although you have rules and a great support system (which is fabulous!) they will try to figure you out and will be very good at it!
I have puppy-siblings too, we got them when they were 7 weeks old (I didn't know at the time that it was probably too young to get them...a whole different set of problems) and they have been a handful!
I wouldn't have it any other way, however. My husband and I were talking, today, about how nice it is to have raised these two together.
It is very, very important to continue the leash tethering. My favorite trainer said to keep the puppies in a safe place (crate) when they are not being supervised at all times. I believe that this is very good advice.
It is hard to do, in fact, it is hard to have two puppies, but the love and sweetness is twice as good too...so to me it is well worth the extra effort.
We sort of had to relax with our "need" to have a spotless house! There is usually dust everywhere (with 4 dogs rolling in dirt, it is bound to be inside too.)
The most important thing is to keep training, don't let up on that. Insist on good behavior. Don't let them do (as puppies) what you don't want them to do as adult dogs.
Watch out for chewing too...mine destroyed furniture, moulding, rugs, etc., not because they were mean, but because they are dogs and dogs will do what they will if they are not supervised. Soooo, use a crate when you can't watch them.
The pictures posted are carefully selected to not show the "bad days"! :wink:
Good luck!
 

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two puppies at the same time

Thanks for the feedback. I see you saw George and Gracie where I posted their photo. Cute, huh? (I saw your guys on your website - What precious babies!) I guess we're doing okay, from your experience with two. I was starting to feel a little cruel with them in their crate so much during the holidays. But then Santa :wink: brought them each a fluffy bed for xmas. They get bones to chew and tethered near their beds while we watch tv at night. I'm surprised how quickly they've gotten attached to the beds.

But I have another crate question. We have one really HUGE crate that is divided down the center with a door on either end. It has been great for them to do it this way. But I'm worrying that their spaces are too small now. They have plenty of head room and they can stand and lie down and turn around and all that, but they can't fit anymore to do their doodle sprawl while napping. When do we have to get another crate?
 

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Yes, George and Gracie are adorable! Are they related? They have a very similar look. (I love the names...after George Burns and Gracie Allen?)
Sounds like they had a great Christmas!
Thanks for the nice compliments about our dogs. :D :D
Hmmm, about the crate size. That is a tough one for me because we always let our girls go into their crate together. (Since they were such tiny babies when we got them and I felt they needed each other.)
We had one of those smaller plastic travel crates and put it inside the large crate when they were small and removed it as they got too big. They have always been in the same space.
They use the crate now, only when they want. I rarely have them crated any more because we moved to the mountains where they have room to run and play...we installed doggie doors and they are happy as ever. Our garage is the new crate!
If you want to keep them close, but separate, I'd say to get another crate and put them side by side. They do love that Doodle sprawl! :D (And so do I!)
 

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Yes, George and Gracie are named after Burns and Allen... but they are littermates.

Maybe we'll try to take out the divider in their crate and see how they do. They get really competitive when they have toys, but they sleep together on the porch, so maybe they can adjust. I hate to get another big crate, but I expect we're going to need to crate them for at least another 6 months - and I'm pretty sure they're still going to grow some. George is about 50 pounds and Gracie about 45. They still look bigger every morning when I get up!
 
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