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Beth, Hang tough!! Toby is just now earning out of crate privileges without constant supervision. He is eight months old. The crate training is a wonderful thing....for all of the reasons that others have indicated. A four month old will destroy :twisted: Toby has never torn up anything that did not belong to him- you know why? I have never given him the opportunity. Get that crate for everyone's sanity. Dora will soon be a well-trusted good, girl.
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