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My name is Julie and I introduced myself a month or so ago and although I haven't posted much, I regularly read this forum. I truly appreciate how great everyone is who's posts on this site and could really use some advice, if you don't mind!! A while back I decided to start breeding labradoodles and began researching and getting all the necessary testing done on my lab. I literally had everything in place ready to go...OFA hips and elbows done, web site started, great stud dog found, wonderful advice from breeder (thanks dixiedi!), dog was in heat, flight info ready, kennel ready, etc. I decided to squeeze in an appointment to get her CERF done the day before I had the health cert completed and, much to my dismay, my sweet dog didn't pass. :( :cry: I couldn't, and still can't, believe it!! Of course I'm glad I found out now, but I was so dumbfounded. I almost wanted to get a second opinion, but am not sure it's worth it. Not only was I sad about the postponment of my breeding plan, but I'm crushed to not be able to breed my lab. She is truly an exceptional dog and I know her puppies would have been outstanding! It breaks my heart to think about fixing her.

Anyway, I needed a couple of days to get over my shock and now I'd really love some honest answers. I'm trying to decide if I want to still continue moving toward breeding and now that I need to get another dog to do that, I want to make sure the choice I make will put me in the direction that works for my family, etc. So sorry for the long post and lots of questions, but here goes.... :wink:

Is there a size of labradoodle that is more popular than another? It's hard for me to pick because they are all so darn cute! I've always been a fan of big dogs, but it's hard to resist a mini and there are obvious reason people would want a smaller dog! Is there a coat type that is more popular than another or is it truly all personal preference? Is there a generation that is more popular (F1, F1B, etc). Again, just when I think I have a favorite, someone posts a pic of their dog and I change my mind! What age do most breeders recommend breeding a female? I've been told 2 years. How many times can you breed a female and/or what age is too old? If I do proceed forward, in the perfect world I would love to find a female who is of breeding age, or close to it, is amazing with kids (aren't all doodles!?) and has been house trained and/or knows basic commands. This is a very tall order, I know, and think it may be too much to ask. I feel like the dog I just described is the kind of dog breeders don't want to give up! Of course, I could train the dog, etc, but just thought I would put it out there. I have only seen a couple of older breeders for sale and didn't know if this would be very easy to come by.

Thank you so much for reading through my very long post and lots of questions. I truly appreciate any feedback you can give me!! :D
 

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Wow so sorry for you and your Lab not passing her Cerf I know just how you feel, I do have one I'm going to retest since I'm not sure of the result they gave me the first time I will take the previous test in with me and be upfront with them just wanted to make that clear for everyone. Cerf is one of the least inexpensive test you can do but it would depend on what they told you was wrong if I would retest or not.

Now lets see if we can get some of your other questions answered:

As far as size it is really up to you I get people that want the big dogs and then I get inquires for the smaller ones, I think what I would do is go with a very small standard or a meduim to begin with right now.

Coat types I would have to say Fleece for sure, not to curl either the more curl the more brushing.

F1 or F1B I think there is a demand for both still some like the scruffy look of the F1's and some like the fleecier look of the F1B's. F1's there are a lot more back yard breeders doing these than when I started over 3 years ago you might want to take that into consideration.

A female can be bred as long as she is over 1 year old and it is at least her 2nd heat, most will come in around 14 to 15 months or 18 months of age from my experience. I retire mine early 4 to 4 1/2 since I breed most of the time back to back heat cycles (not allows) depends on how many come in you can only handle a few litters at a time unless you have help good help. ALAA requires we stop breeding at 6 years but I would never breed that long anyway not saying you can't I just like to retire them and let them be dogs and not breed the life out of them.

They are people who sell breeders at the age you want you just have to put the word out there and let people know your looking you will pay more for a tested ready to breed female however so don't be shocked at some of the prices.

Hope this helps make you feel a little like you can still do it. :wink:
 

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Julie, I am so sorry...please contact me, I live in CA and would be very happy to talk to you, at length, and we can discuss your situation...and maybe work on some of your questions in detail.
As far as getting a second opinion...yes! You have invested a lot of time and money into this...a second opinion could be very helpful...
Now, depending on the reason for your dog's failing the CERF, if you live close enough, UC Davis has the best animal facility around...and I would strongly suggest that you contact them for the second opinion.
You may contact me with a PM at the bottom, and send me your email address...I'll respond and if you give me your phone number, we can talk.
If we live close enough, we might be able to help each other too...a co-ownership or something.
 

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Thank you all so much! You've all made me feel much better and encouraged. Jac---I will definitely contact you...thank you!! I've spent so much time and energy into getting things done right that it was a huge disappointment, as I'm sure you can all relate. I did tell the vet that I wanted to breed my lab, but didn't specifically say for doodles. Would that have made a difference? She told me she had cataracts and they don't recommended breeding. Is that something worth getting a second opinion about? :?
 

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quick question was this YOUR lay vet or a certified eye vet
these would be different lay vets cant do eye certifications

Yes a 2nd opinion wont hurt,,and make sure that it is a EYE specialist
 

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listen to nancy, it is entirely possible if the vet knew its for doodles they could have falsley failed you, gosh I even hate to type it, but as you are on breeder boards you hear of this many many times over and begin to be skeptical. talk to jac she will help you

as far as size small standards are really in vogue right now in my neck of the woods :)
 

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Julie, earlier, I sent a private message to you....since you are new, you may not have noticed, but...I did! :D
 

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Hi Julie, I hope you got in touch with Jac. She will definately help you out and she is so much closer than I am. That would be great if you guys could co-own something. Please let me know how it turns out :) I love it when things come together :D
 
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