[JettsMom]

I'm sorry LeeBeth but I can't stop laughing. Toby sooo reminds me of a golden retriever we owned. She would eat anything and everything. Aluminum cans, kitchen utensils, any kind of plastic thingymajiggy, my dauther's sterling silver ring..... Hope the goat, our dog, had many radiographs taken but everything always passed thru one end or the other. It took a while for the ring but eventually she up-chucked that baby out on the floor. I sure did love that dog.

Jett loves to throw her toys around too. I have been bonked quite a few times when I was in the way. And she throws hard. She can catch too so that makes it interesting. :lol:

Now back to your Toby doodle dandy--did they say how his eyes are? Give him gentle hugs from me and puppy kisses from my gang.

 

[keywee]

He ate the whole e-collar?! I can't believe it! Well, at least it sounds like he is having a grand old time!

 

[wannadoodle]

Okay, Toby is home. He looks absolutely pitiful. Like a boxer (fighter not dog) after a fight. Both eyes are swollen and have stitches under them. The vet was uncomfortable putting another e-collar on him :?: but she sent one home with him for me to use. NOT! :lol: He doesn't even seem to notice his poor old eyes. He hasn't rubbed them at all, so I see no need to try another collar. Yes, keywee, every crumb. I have to put ointment in both eyes 2xdaily and he HATES it. Hopefully, the eye saga will be over soon- stitches out in 7-10 days. Newest ailment, he has a patch of skin on his leg that isn't growing hair. The scraped it, but I don't know the results yet. Good thing this little man has such fun at the doctor, huh? What a very happy boy. Thank you all for being there for us.

 

[bminder]

I am so glad that Toby is home with you. You two have been through so much. I hope he has a speedy recovery and everything goes well with the test on his leg. Good luck and take care!
Best wishes,
Beth and Dora

 

[Jac]

Well, LeeBeth you and Toby are real troopers! I am so happy that he is home. I hope his healing is speedy and complete...and that the skin test comes back negative.
If Toby does need the e-collar, you could try putting some yuck stuff gel (yep, that is really the name) on it...it is like bitter apple only it won't hurt wounds and is non-toxic. So, if it does get on his e-collar and he gets it in his sores or eats it, it won't hurt him! (Plus let's hope he won't like the flavor!)

 

[wannadoodle]

Jacque, It's funny you should say the trooper thing...that's his nickname. He is a trooper. I can't help but wonder about the other 5 or 6 littermates........glad I have you guys.

 

[Jac]

That is funny!
We are glad you found us too, LeeBeth!

 

[wannadoodle]

Update.. it appears Toby's eye surgery was a success. He hasn't rubbed them at all and they are healing very quickly. I should post a pic of his "Rocky Balboa" look. Still don't know about the skin irritation.

 

[bminder]

I am so glad that his eye is doing better. It makes mine water just thinking about it. I know that was a hard thing to go through, but thank you for talking about it. That way if any one else has to go through it, they know what to expect and look out for. Thanks for keeping in touch. Keep getting better Toby!!
Beth and Dora

 

[Jac]

Bless his heart...I am so glad that he is doing better...thanks so much for posting the updates...we are all thinking about you and Toby!

 

[wannadoodle]

No mange mites!!!! Hip hip hooray! Maybe Toby's life will be a bit easier from this point on.

 

[M&Tdoodles]

Re: ENTROPION

I am so glad that his eye is doing better. It makes mine water just thinking about it. I know that was a hard thing to go through, but thank you for talking about it. That way if any one else has to go through it, they know what to expect and look out for. Thanks for keeping in touch. Keep getting better Toby!!
Beth and Dora

One of our pups has this in his lower left lid....Surgery is needed so the Vet Opthomologist suggested, but not now , the pup is only 9 weeks old now..he suggest's we wait until at least 4 mos of age until he is a bit larger ..He feels if it is corrected too early his facial structure may change with growth and it may need repeating...

It is an expensive surgery 850.00...yikes..but as breeders we will certainly cover this for the prospective owners to be....anpther thing to consider for those thinking about breeding!

"Hutch" doesnt seem to be bothered by it , just tearing a bit...We have to put eye drops in it twice daily for now to keep it lubricated....

After so many pups , this is the first time we have had this problem...so happy this was Kelsey's last litter...

Never heard of this before ....but did a search and thankfully have read all about it that I can....wish there was an easier cure than surgery though....I was being hoeful while reading in this earlier thread that the injection would have been the solution then read surgery was needed 2 months after the injection....Oh well, I learn so much from all of you every day....
Thank goodness for this labradoodle forum...

We are going for a second opinion however to make sure there isn't another way....maybe he will grow out of it...but the Vet doubts he will, states it is rare that he would...one can only HOPE....and if surgery is required then maybe we will have him neutered at the same time...
Waiting to hear if the prospective forever home still want this puppy....it is alot to swallow for new puppy parents to be...I give them much credit if they still do ....will find out today...We just gave them the news about the prognosis last night...
This is a very interesting subject for us because we are going though it now , so will keep you all posted on the outcome of lil Hutches eye....

 

[Jac]

Martha, thanks for bring this topic back...it is an important one and I know what you are going through. We had a pup with entropic eyelids ...had to have surgery... we also had to make breeding choices that were hard...but necessary.

I pray that all goes well for your puppy and his new family.

It is sort of funny reading through this though...hahahaha...I have learned a LOT in these years...and I would not give the same answers or advice now as I did then....wow, I don't know if I dare check out other old posts!

 

[M&Tdoodles]

Yes yes isnt it amazing how much you can learn when breeding Labradoodles, in Ri we are sooo soo very fortunate to have 2 certified Vet Opthomologists within 10 miles of us to get a second opinion with...iwe cannot wait to see what #2 has to say....I had never heard of this before...but in the entire scheme of things this is not life threatening and my heart isnt breaking..so if they backout , we are sure we will find him a great home after the surgery is a success.. always keeping that chin up..

 

[Jac]

Your pup will be fine and as tough as it is to have the surgery, it was not too bad for our boy. The hardest part was the e-collar for so long...you can't have them scratching their eyes! (and you have to leave it on quite a while)

We didn't place our boy until after his surgery so we didn't have to worry about anyone backing out because of it...but you are right, in the grand scheme of things, if there has to be a genetic flaw, this is not too horrible. Uncomfortable, yes, but not horrible...it is fixable, not life threatening, no long-term meds, etc.

Still, we hate to have our babies hurting...

One thing that we learned was that sometimes they eye, because it is open much of the time (can't properly blink) gets more dirt in it. We take straight saline solution (inexpensive) and squirt it right into the eye to rinse out dust and dirt...then follow up with the eye meds, but not always the meds because they can make dirt and dust collect too...so, we regularly rinsed and wiped it with a sterile gauze pad.

 

[bdbanddad]

My Maggie has to have an Entropion eye fixed, it was her right eye, here is a picture of her the day we had her stitches taken out, that was about two weeks ago and honestly you can't hardly even tell she had surgery. The worst part of the whole deal was that E-Collar argh I don't like them I can't imagine how they must feel! Good luck to you hope it goes well!

 

[kirama]

It is genetic, its relatively common in both labs and poodles. I have been on some breeder websites where there are discussions about keeping a dog in their breeding program that has had pups with entropian. I don't agree with them doing that, but if that's their choice I hope that they will at least disclose it to the people buying their puppies so the buyer can at least make an informed decision about taking on the potential cost of surgery.