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...or anyone who knows more than I do.

I understand what F1 and F1B labradoodles are. Is a 2nd generation doodle when both parents are F1? Also, what is a 3rd generation (the puppy we are considering in the fall will be a 3rd gen Parti doodle)?

Question 2, with F1 doodles, is the mother always the lab and father the doodle. If so, why?

Thanks for your answers. I'm just curious.

Katie
 

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Katie ...

Found this on-line, might be more information than you wanted but it does explain the A-B-C's and the 1-2-3's!

Here are a few of the different ways American Labradoodles are produced.

F1 = 50% Labrador and 50% Poodle - This is Lab to poodle cross, this is first generation, resulting in healthier offspring! Hair type can be smooth like a Lab, wirey look like a Irish wolfhound or Wavy/shaggy, they can shed or not shed, pups in the same litter can vary. This is not the best cross for people with severe allergies.

F1-B = 25% Labrador Retriever and 75% Poodle (F1 Labradoodle and Poodle cross) - This is Labradoodle bred back to Poodle, Wavy Curly shaggy look doodle very consistent in coat types. F1B is the MOST likely of any to be non shedding and Allergy friendly.

F2 = F1 Labradoodle and F1 Labradoodle cross - this combination you get the same percentage of Lab Poodle mix as you would an F1 Labradoodle so they are more likely to shed.

F3 = F2 Labradoodle and F2 Labradoodle cross

Multi-generation = F3 or higher generation Labradoodle and F3 or higher generation Labradoodle cross.

The Australian Labradoodle is a purebred. It's not just a Labrador x Poodle cross but was a breed in its own right developed over many years with particular goals in mind. To accomplish these goals, further development was done with parent breed infusions added to the already blooming Labrador x Poodle cross lines.

In 1989, Rutland Manor Labradoodle Breeding and Research Center was organized in Darnum, Victoria. They used only health tested Labradors, Poodles, and 3rd generation Labradoodles.

The Tegan Park Labradoodle Breeding and Research Centre located in Seaspray, Victoria was established at the same time. It also carefully controlled its breeding program, using only the finest genetically healthy dogs.

These pioneering developers of the breed sought out the best ways in which to compliment the Australian Labradoodle breed and develop the qualities found and loved in these dogs.

In 1997 the very first Australian Labradoodle Breed Standard was written which reflected these goals. The Australian Labradoodle currently consists of 6 different breeds in its origin. The Confirmed and Approved Parent Breeds of the Australian Labradoodle are the Poodle (Standard, Miniature,Toy), Labrador Retriever, Irish Water Spaniel, Soft Coated Wheaton Terrier (Pure Irish lines only) American Cocker Spaniel and English Cocker Spaniel.

It's no wonder that the Labradoodle ranks among America's most fashionable companion dogs today. Who can deny the desire to own the perfect dog?

The Labradoodle possesses the superior intelligence of the Poodle and the fantastic athleticism of the Labrador Retriever. Even better, the Labradoodle boasts the personality, good looks and hypoallergenic coat of its Poodle parent, as well as the friendly disposition and desire to please of its Labrador family
 

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f1b x f1b = f3

not recomended to breed f1 to f1 - its preffered to go f1 to poodle for coat
f1b = f2 in generation so f1b with another f1b or an f2 will be an f3

the puppys generation is one more than the lowest one bred
ie an f1 bred to an f5 = an f2

i use a poodle mom :)
 

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I've seen several F1B's that shed some I have one here that does, now she doesn't shed as bad as an F1 but does shed a little. My F3 and up do not shed at all. It is possible to find F1B's that don't shed but it is hard to tell when they are puppies.
 
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