[Doodlesville]

I have one or 2 pups that seem to be gased up,
we are worming them today n for the next 2 days
all the poop is very loose, some watery,
i have been giving them a bit of pumpkin
is there anything else i should be doing or is there somthing i am doing wrong? i am bottle feeding not tube feeding goats milk esbilac
they are now at 60ml appx per feeding every 4hrs
am i over feeding?

 

[MaxandMe]

Nancy...at what point can you call your vet for phone consult?

my hugs and prayers go out to you honey ((((nancy))))

 

[Doodlesville]

He wormed them

i am worming them for 3 days with nemex 2 ,
it now has texture
the pup is eating a little,,we are giving fluids and nutral cal keeping warm , and hydrated, everything the vet will do, i suppose we just need to wait this out, just will feed him less more times per day i guess

 

[Jac]

Nancy, this sounds funny, but Lexie was our first mother...and when Bayley (her sister) had a litter, one pup was acting like that, very big tummy, groaning, uncomfortable...the mother did her cleaning thing...but no relief. One evening while watching television, we took the pup out and I had him on my lap...Lexie came right over and started licking and licking and licking him...she licked him for about a half hour...when she was finished, his tummy was normal and he felt good!
Does the mama lick the pups enough to get them going? If not, do you have a more experienced mother dog that you would trust to help out?
I am sorry that you are going through this...please keep us posted.
Maybe the pups are allergic to the milk, even goats milk...what about trying that liver water stuff they talk about on the breeder's forum?

 

[Doodlesville]

yes he is gassy

liver watery stuff?? I have missed that one
would love to have that info here!!!!

 

[movistar]

when I tube fed my first litter for a week I did 1 mm per ounce of weight
every four hours and they thrived
how much does your puppy weigh does my formula fit in?

best wishes

 

[Doodlesville]

The are

around 2+lbs getting between 50-75ml every 4hrs appx

 

[movistar]

Re: The are

around 2+lbs getting between 50-75ml every 4hrs appx

hmmmm your a good mommy then lol
according to my formula 32 ml every four hours would be what is indicated!

with that said I remember the doctor telling me I was feeding my son too much formula but I never changed and he is 14 and perfect (well perfect for a 14 year old boy!!)

 

[Doodlesville]

i KNEW i was screwin up somthing

ok back down to 30ml
gonna add ben en bac daily too,,its kinda like puppy yogurt
gonna add ceral and lamb to their diets too, food may have started to soon
i dunno,,sheesh,,i just realized I KNOW Nuffin!!! LOL

they really need a bath,i just dont want them chilled a chilled pup is a dead pup,, are they old enough yet? nver had to wash them this early

 

[Guest]

Oh Nancy, you are doing a wonderful job. I wish I was closer so I could help out (not that I know ANYTHING but you could show me )

Here is a great website the breeder has delivered over 350 litters and hand fed many.

http://www.leerburg.com/bottlefeeding.htm

He recommends 40cc every 3-4 hours for a 32 oz puppy. Total daily feeding 240 cc's.He has a recipe that he says has worked the best for him.

Puppy Recipe

11 Calories per CC

10 oz. of canned evaporated milk or goat's milk (not pasteurized cow's milk - this will cause scowers - dogs cannot drink normal cow's milk) Goats milk is by far the best to use. Wall Mart sells it.

3 oz. sterilized water (baby water or boiled water) this is not needed if using goat's milk

1 raw egg yolk

1 cup of whole yogurt (avoid skim or fat free if at all possible)

1/2 Tsp Karo Syrup or Corn Syrup (NOT HONEY !!!)

Place ingredients in a blender and blend or use a wire whisk. Be careful to not over blend and create a milk shake full of bubbles and then tube bubbles into the puppy.

Keep cool and discard leftovers after 7 days.

Warm formula to body temperature (dogs are around 101 degrees). Discard any un-used formula. This is a thick mixture - use a stomach tube to tube feed or enlarge the hole in the nipple for easy access for the pup.

And he adds other food at 4 weeks. Maybe go back to just formula mixture with yogurt for another week? Or above recipe?

And everything I read says no bath yet, just a washcloth and warm water swipe.

Hang in there, you are my hero

 

[Doodlesville]

Thanks

Got the yogurt coming, steve is on the way home from vet,,the vet gave him some kinda shot,forgot to ask and fluids,
im worming again today with nemex2
Linda waito called she told me to use chicken baby food rather then lamb cause that will give em gas,
got baby ceral ,gonna try that vet suggested some substance for this one pup that is having trouble
they are so hungry when i feed them, may try going longer between feedings too
Ohh and they are 3-3.9lbs not 2lbs HELP ,,how much do i feed at the weight,,im so tired i cant think
ohh dont look at me wrong i CRY!!! :roll: :lol:

 

[Guest]

Looks like 360 cc's for the 3 pounder and 468 cc's for the 3.9 pounder.

 

[Doodlesville]

PS LINDA

I found that site the other day,,helped me bunches,,
thanks

 

[Doodlesville]

??

so if i feed every 4 hrs what would that be per feeding???

 

[Guest]

And at their weight and age I saw "feed every 6 hours"
The formula is 30cc's per pound.
So the 3 pounder needs 90cc's every 6 hours and the 3.9 pounder needs 117cc's every 6 hours.

 

[Guest]

Ok here is the site with the latest formula calculation:
http://www.bonchien.com/feedingschedule.html

and to make it every 4 hours:

60cc's every 4 hours for the 3 pounder and

78 cc's every 4 hours for the 3.9 pounder

 

[Doodlesville]

6 pounder??
Ohh that helps bunches,,im sooo brain dead
30cc per lb every 6hrs,,ohh my life just got much easier!!!!

 

[Guest]

Nancy, let me know if you need any other pound calculations. It is hard to do when exhausted.

 

[Guest]

I fixed it! See you are not so exhausted! :lol: And they will be 6 pounds before you know it!!! :lol:

 

[Doodlesville]

I love

i really love that site,,ty so much!!!!!
you are a life saver,,thank Linda maaaaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa