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Hi! I'm new here but have been lurking since late Feb. We have a 14 yr. old chocolate lab and a 15 week old chocolate LD. It was love at first sight once I saw her pic on the internet. I want to thank you all for all the wonderful information you share about your doodles, it's been very helpful, 14 years is a long time between puppies! I have learned so much about dog food since I starting reading this site. For that reason I have decided to change Dixie from Purina One LB puppy food to something else that scored better. I think I like Natural Balance or Blue, both are at local pet stores. My question is -What do you think about feeding a puppy Natural Balance Ultra Premium? It says it's good for all life stages. Is this really a good thing to do or would a large breed puppy food be best? Thanks!

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Hi, and welcome! We have a 16 week old chocolate LD and we feed her Canidae which is an all stage food also. This is the food that the breeder feeds all her dogs. The woman who teaches our puppy class was impressed with the fact the breeder uses this food. Hope this helps.

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Here is the grading scheme:

Dog Food - Scoring Guide and Scores
Prepared by HausMommy

Here is a list of ingredients and definitions you'll find in your dog's food:

How to grade your dog's food:
Start with a grade of 100:

1) For every listing of "by-product", subtract 10 points

2) For every non-specific animal source ("meat" or "poultry", meat, meal or fat) reference, subtract 10 points

3) If the food contains BHA, BHT, or ethoxyquin, subtract 10 points

4) For every grain "mill run" or non-specific grain source, subtract 5 points

5) If the same grain ingredient is used 2 or more times in the first five ingredients (i.e. "ground brown rice", "brewer's rice", "rice flour" are all the same grain), subtract 5 points

6) If the protein sources are not meat meal and there are less than 2 meats in the top 3 ingredients, subtract 3 points

7) If it contains any artificial colorants, subtract 3 points

8 ) If it contains ground corn or whole grain corn, subtract 3 points

9) If corn is listed in the top 5 ingredients, subtract 2 more points

10) If the food contains any animal fat other than fish oil, subtract 2 points

11) If lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is allergic to other protein sources), subtract 2 points

12) If it contains soy or soybeans, subtract 2 points

13) If it contains wheat (unless you know that your dog isn't allergic to wheat), subtract 2 points

14) If it contains beef (unless you know that your dog isn't allergic to beef), subtract 1 point

15) If it contains salt, subtract 1 point

Extra Credit:

1) If any of the meat sources are organic, add 5 points

2) If the food is endorsed by any major breed group or nutritionist, add 5 points

3) If the food is baked not extruded, add 5 points

4) If the food contains probiotics, add 3 points

5) If the food contains fruit, add 3 points

6) If the food contains vegetables (NOT corn or other grains), add 3 points

7) If the animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free, add 2 points

8 ) If the food contains barley, add 2 points

9) If the food contains flax seed oil (not just the seeds), add 2 points

10) If the food contains oats or oatmeal, add 1 point

11) If the food contains sunflower oil, add 1 point

12) For every different specific animal protein source (other than the first one; count "chicken" and "chicken meal" as only one protein source, but "chicken" and "" as 2 different sources), add 1 point

13) If it contains glucosamine and chondroitin, add 1 point

14) If the vegetables have been tested for pesticides and are pesticide-free, add 1 point

94-100+ = A
86-93 = B
78-85 = C
70-77 = D
<70 = F

Here are some foods that have already been scored. If you don't see your dog's food here, ask and someone will score it for you.
Dog Food scores:

Authority Harvest Baked / Score 116 A+

Bil-Jac Select / Score 68 F

Canidae / Score 112 A+

Chicken Soup Senior / Score 115 A+

Diamond Maintenance / Score 64 F

Diamond Lamb Meal & Rice / Score 92 B

Diamond Large Breed 60+ Formula / Score 99 A

Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Ultra Premium / Score 122 A+

Dick Van Patten's Duck and Potato / Score 106 A+

Foundations / Score 106 A+

Hund-n-Flocken Adult Dog (lamb) by Solid Gold / Score 93 D

Iams Lamb Meal & Rice Formula Premium / Score 73 D

Innova Dog / Score 114 A+

Innova Evo / Score 114 A+

Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice, and Vegetables / Score 110 A+

Nutrisource Lamb and Rice / Score 87 B

Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed Puppy / Score 87 B

Pet Gold Adult with Lamb & Rice / Score 23 F

ProPlan Natural Turkey & Barley / Score 103 A+

Purina Benful / Score 17 F

Purina Dog / Score 62 F

Purina Come-n-Get It / Score 16 F

Royal Canin Bulldog / Score 100 A+

Royal Canin Natural Blend Adult / Score 106 A+

Sensible Choice Chicken and Rice / Score 97 A

Science Diet Advanced Protein Senior 7+ / Score 63 F

Science Diet for Large Breed Puppies / Score 69 F

Wellness Super5 Mix Chicken / Score 110 A+

Wolfking Adult Dog (bison) by Solid Gold / Score 97 A

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A funny thing happened when we switched Chester's food. We knew to mix the old stuff with the new stuff to get him used to it but we found he would pick out and eat the new kibble and drop the old kibble on the floor. We got the hint!

Welcome new doodles!

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The cocker spaniel we had before Cinamon didn't like rice. We tried the Iam's Lamb and Rice and he would eat the meat part but I had little rice pellets all over the floor where he would pick them out of his bowl. I got THAT hint, too!

We've tried other "premium" dog foods on Cinnamon and she will get TERRIBLE gas. :shock: I think I'll stick to Iam's adult. We fed her the LBP when she was a pup and She's quite healthy. Someday I'll take the time and figure out how to post a pic...someday... :roll:

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Hi, I have picky eaters and the only food that they consistently loved is Natural Balance...but we bought the nice frozen meat loaf type...but I stopped feeding it because (even the canned) it all had a scent of smoked cooking, which I am sure the dogs loved, but I began to wonder if so much smoke flavoring could be bad over the long run.
So, there you comments about Natural Balance...good food, dogs love it, but you be the judge!

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Thanks All for your replies. I bought the NB Ultra premium dry last night and fed both my 14 year old and 15 wk old LD a 50/50 mixture with their current food. They both seemed to love it. Time will tell, I'm hoping to see some improvement in my 14 yr. olds coat. The puppy already has a shiny coat but her stools are loose so maybe they'll improve.
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