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Couple of questions

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Looking for mini-labradoodle pup and have a couple of questions about processes by which these dogs are typically bred.

1. Any advantages/disadvantages/problems with a puppy bred through artificial insemination, rather than traditional mating of male and female parent dogs?

2. Anything to recommend or argue against breeding of a regular, full-sized labradoodle mother to toy (rather than miniature) poodle father?

Thanks for any input you all can provide.

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Kevin are you asking because you want to buy a breeding puppy or because the puppy you are buying has been bred via AI using the sizes you mention?

If you are considering breeding, I would find out a lot more info before I invested in the breeding dog because the time for breeding usually approaches much faster than you imagine and you have to have everyithing in place and be ready for emergency situations...

If you are asking because you are buying a puppy from a breeder who has AI'd a standard size mother with a toy sized father, yes, I think there could be problems. As Linda mentioned in an earlier post recently, the general rule is that you should not breed dogs with more than a 4 inch difference in size. Why? Because you may end up with some pretty strange bone/teeth structure (possibly internal organs too) and/or soem significant health issues realated to the size variation. I would not advise this "fast track" to minitures.

I do own two moyen Poodles, they are small standards. Larger than mini but smaller than the general standard size. Maureen is right, in Europe this is considered one of the basic sizes for Poodles. In the US they are just catching on.

I prefer breeding a small standard female Labradoodle to a Moyen Poodle male and then on the next litter downsizing to a miniture male.

I just think that nature will give some surprises when we try to make things happen too fast...and, personally, I think that is when we start getting a bad reputation as breeders...when we want to rush into the latest fad without studying or working on the possible consequences.

This discussion is actually ongoing on this forum only dealing with mating larger dogs, trying to breed long legged is an interesting debate and I certainly don't have the answers...I just think that we ought to stick like sizing when possible, moving up or down in size gradually.
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I think that all of the info is good...this is a good way to promote knowledge and share ideas. I don't see that any one person can be right or wrong there are so many variables...breeding is not an accurate science and we are often surprised at results, even when we do our best.
I think that Maureen's point is well taken. Height and weight are so varied. As an example, I bought siblings for my first breeding pair. They are full siblings same coloring, but one is very Labby, (short legs, boxy chest and head, weighs 65 lsb!) the other favors the Poodle side but is abou tthe same height...she is lean and trim and weighs between 45 and 55 lbs, it fluxuates because she is a picky eaer like the Poodles. They are the same height exactly, but Lexie has shorter legs and more body where Bayley has longer legs and a leaner build.
I believe that the acceptable size range is found at ALAA: ... ndard.html
Scroll down a little and you will see the 3 sizes, standard/medium/miniture.
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