Thanks to all for quick and useful responses.Jac said:Kevin are you asking because you want to buy a breeding puppy or because the puppy you are buying has been bred via AI using the sizes you mention?
If you are considering breeding, I would find out a lot more info before I invested in the breeding dog because the time for breeding usually approaches much faster than you imagine and you have to have everyithing in place and be ready for emergency situations...
If you are asking because you are buying a puppy from a breeder who has AI'd a standard size mother with a toy sized father, yes, I think there could be problems. As Linda mentioned in an earlier post recently, the general rule is that you should not breed dogs with more than a 4 inch difference in size. Why? Because you may end up with some pretty strange bone/teeth structure (possibly internal organs too) and/or soem significant health issues realated to the size variation. I would not advise this "fast track" to minitures.
I do own two moyen Poodles, they are small standards. Larger than mini but smaller than the general standard size. Maureen is right, in Europe this is considered one of the basic sizes for Poodles. In the US they are just catching on.
I prefer breeding a small standard female Labradoodle to a Moyen Poodle male and then on the next litter downsizing to a miniture male.
I just think that nature will give some surprises when we try to make things happen too fast...and, personally, I think that is when we start getting a bad reputation as breeders...when we want to rush into the latest fad without studying or working on the possible consequences.
This discussion is actually ongoing on this forum only dealing with mating larger dogs, trying to breed long legged dogs...it is an interesting debate and I certainly don't have the answers...I just think that we ought to stick like sizing when possible, moving up or down in size gradually.
Question concerns buying a puppy. I am definitely NOT thinking of doing any dog breeding myself.
Dog we were looking at is F1, lab mother and toy poodle father. Answers about problems in proportion and possible bones/teeth make sense.
Am I correct that 35-40 pound adult is considered a miniature labradoodle? For an F1, how is this usually produced? Small lab mom and mini poodle? Does such a size get easier and more likely with further generations -- F1B, multigen, etc?
Thanks again for information and advice.