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Canada has been nursing the 12 pups for 17 days, and they look great.
She is just now starting to show signs of it wearing her down. She's far from thin, (is actually a bit on the chunky side yet) but is definitely slimmer than her usual self. Her coat is also getting dry and brittle and somewhat thinner on her legs and feet.

She refuses to eat any dog food other than the Pedigree she's eaten her whole adult life, so I'm forced to stick with that and supplement to keep her from running herself down. She's eating about 30 lbs of Pedigree per week. Today I started topdressing with puppy formula on her food and am mixing a calcium tablet in with it. (She won't take them unless I slip them into her food) She's been getting beef liver and eggs for several weeks, so I'll continue that as well.

My vet assures me this should do her fine until the pups start eating something other than Mamas milk. In a few days, when they turn 3 weeks of age, I plan to start offering them a bit of crushed puppy chow soaked in puppy formula to hopefully take some of the pressure off Canada.

SO does anyone have any magic formulas that I should know about? The pups are all shiney, round, and strong so I'd like to keep them that way!

The pups have just been wormed so should be good in that area.
 

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I would just get them eating as soon as you can I've started at 3 weeks before on huge litters also, usually smaller litters are fine and mom keeps up with them. I did have a Lab that started losing her hair I freaked I had never had that happen, I heard about it but never seen it. I took her to the Vet and all they check for skin problems it ending up being the stress of the litter she was a small female 50 lbs and had 12 pups. She did get her hair back but imagine how bad she looked when people came to meet her and the pups. :shock: :shock:
 

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hey, Tink, some dogs are just blessed with giving us big litters!
Is Canada a Lab? I'm thinking she is, but correct me if I'm wrong.
The hairloss and wearing down are normal, her body is giving everything its got. I think you are giving GREAT supplements to Canada's food. Especially the liver and calcium!

It sounds to me like you are doing fine, and yes, this is a stressful time for Canada's body but you both sound like you will come thru this in good shape.

 

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Thanks!

Yes Maureen Canada is a lab. She's not real tall... about 20", but is normally stocky, around 72 lbs. Right now she's probably edging down toward 65- 67 lbs, so is no where near skinny; but I know for her this is a significant weight loss. She could afford to take off a few pounds, but while she's nursing isn't the time for that.

I'd heard of dogs losing hair from nursing stress too, so decided to counter it as quickly as I can to avoid letting it go too far. She really enjoyed that puppy formula last night, so as long as I can slip the calcium pill in that I think we're going to get it down. The liver she inhales before it hits her bowl. LOL

I just know that when you get this many "dog people" together, you also get a wealth of ideas that can be very helpful, so figured it was worth putting the question out there. I like to make the best use I can of all my resources. :D
 

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have you tried cottage cheese or yogurt as an additional supplement to what you are feeding? normally we start puppy food for the bitch while she is pregnant, I am surprised your vet didnt have you do that but then again you said she is picky so perhaps you tried. All above advice came directly from a reproductive vet specialist and has worked well for us and our big litters.

I start my litters on food at three weeks exactly and its so cute they actually do wonderful! watch out for a glutton puppy I had one once :) cutest dog but thought he could eat the whole tray on day one! ended up throwing up til the cows came home :) I actually dont make gruel because my pups have always prefered just soaked puppy food and they seem to learn to eat it better when they can pick it up a little.

Seems extremely early to worm the pups... did you have an outbreak?
(keep in mind overall I am anti medicine :))
 

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I tried different puppy foods and canada went on a food strike. She wants her Pedigree and ONLY Pedigree. LOL I tried mixing puppy chows in with the Pedigree and she picked out what she wanted and left the rest in the dirt.

As you'll see by a different post, I did offer puppy formula tonight and they all dove in like greedy little pigs. Not one had any trouble eating or went away at all hungry. So this too should help Canada big time. They're 19 days old today and had been climbing into and licking her food, so they let me know they were ready for more than just Mamas milk. Seriously I've never seen pups eat this well on their first meal. It was obviously time for them to start eating.

My vet prefers worming at 2, 4, 6 and 8 weeks to make sure they're well protected, so that's what I do. This time it was simple... I dare say the next few times won't be nearly as easy. :lol:
 

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Hi Tink! You've just reminded me what to prepare for next week, since I am 6 days behind you! Saw your video...they are so CUTE!
I was thinking.....remember when I put up the post on supplimenting Canadae? I researched and then found a site that listed DO NOT FEED foods.
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm ... cleid=1030
Check out about the raw eggs again. Perhaps this could be part of the coat problem?
Then again....I pour baby formula (out of evaperated milk, egg yolks, and karo syrup) over Tuesdays food 2X day. I warm it up and let it soak up a bit. I cook the whites with some butter an give it to her when I make the formula, so some of the egg is actually cooked. I read somewhere that the karo gives the mom a little pick-me up. I also read that mom's have a hard time getting all the calories that they really need and to give some in a fat source such as butter. So far, so good with Tuesday...the puppies are so fat! I do also suppliment her daily w/ calcium, magnesium/ zinc suppliment and what kind of protein she manages to mooch off of me.
here's a fat one for you!!!
 

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Oh Judi, that's the kind of tummies we like to see! LOL

I was just out and fed the babies ground puppy chow soaked soft in warm water with a sprinkle of puppy milk replacement formula on it. It's far more liquid than solid. They all ate their fill and then Canada cleaned up after them.

I quit the raw egg after reading here that it might not be a good thing. So thank you for that. :D
Canada seems to happy to see the pups eating out of a pan... I don't know if she's glad to be getting some help in that area, or if she's looking forward to cleaning up after them. LOL Maybe a bit of both.

Right now I have 12 puppies contentedly sleeping with round tummies, so all is right in Tinkerdoodle land. :lol:
 

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KELSEY HAD 11 PUPPIES, LAST SUMMER & NURSED THE PUPS ALL WELL. THE PUPS GAINED WEIGHT DAILY. MIRACLE... NURSED THE PUPS ONLY UNTIL THEY WERE 5 WEEKS OF AGE THEN WE STARTED THEM ON SUPLEMENTAL FOOD LARGE BREED PUPPY FOOD ( IAMS). WE ALSO GAVE HER BEEF BROTH OR CHICKEN BROTH AND RICE WITH CHICKEN AND OR BEEF AND OR LIVER AND RAW EGGS. HER COAT BECAME VERY SILKY & SHINY . SHE SEEMED TO DO GREAT ON THIS. WE THEN STARTED FEEDING THE PUPS THEIR PUPPY FOOD AT 5 WEEKS.

HER HAIR LOSS WAS ALL OVER BODY/ ALMOST ENTIRELY OFF HER TAIL. SHE DID LOOK FUNNY FOR AWHILE BUT IT ALL GREW BACK.

HER WEIGHT DROPPED BUT NOT DRAMATICLLY. SHE WENT FROM 70 TO 64 LBS AFTER NURSING CEASED. ALL SURVIVED....
GOOD LUCK
 
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